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Topic: road changes
Posted By: big baggles
Subject: road changes
Date Posted: 29 June 2016 at 8:22am
i hear the road layout in the market place is to be changed soon to allow access into the grange, 

this may mean suspension of parking in the market place...

and the work may take up to 10 weeks.....


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Posted By: Bucks Fizz
Date Posted: 04 July 2016 at 7:37am
I see the roadworks announced for the A413 which were to have taken place this past weekend did not happen. Nobody told the bus company, though, and it seems bus routes were changed to avoid the works. A poor show.


Posted By: big baggles
Date Posted: 05 July 2016 at 3:55pm
footpath to be installed on the opposite side to the shops on the market place,  a retaining wall to be installed and  some dropped curbs to signify an area to cross from the shop side to the grange side  to be installed soon, - 

parking to be suspended  in the market place for numerous weeks while the works are carried out


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Posted By: AntonyMMM
Date Posted: 07 July 2016 at 10:20am
No-one told the workmen on the A413 either, who were busy putting out cones and diversions signs at 9am on Saturday, but they (and all the signs) had disappeared again by 10.


Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 07 July 2016 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by big baggles big baggles wrote:

footpath to be installed on the opposite side to the shops on the market place,  a retaining wall to be installed and  some dropped curbs to signify an area to cross from the shop side to the grange side  to be installed soon, - 

parking to be suspended  in the market place for numerous weeks while the works are carried out


Do you know Baggles if they are going to widen the market place? I was thinking with the new footpath and 2 lorries/buses possibly meeting, people walking on the Grange side could be in serious danger from the traffic.


Posted By: big baggles
Date Posted: 29 July 2016 at 10:05am
no ....as far as i know the road will not be widened... but i do know concerns have been raised about HGV's raised by parish council and also by village residents
as far as i am aware its merely removal of undergrowth, addition of a pathway and retaining wall, there is going to be the left turn as you go up the market place into the grange  ( which i am guessing may need a wider section or the permanent removal of parking spaces on the opposite side of the road- so HGV's can turn in and out of the grange onto the market place ), but lets see, the bucks highways blokes  were measuring the road recently...
maybe we will get a wider stretch of highway ?  here is hoping !


its the possible change now from the residential care home to assisted living flats thats got me looking at it all again.... i am wondering if this will be within the same footprint ?



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Posted By: Maureen wickes
Date Posted: 24 January 2017 at 1:35pm
The standard of the wall alongside the new pavement is an insult to this village, I am hoping residents might feel inclined to complain to Persimmon, post some footage on YouTube - anything to try and get an improved wall. I am in contact with our MP and Chiltern District Council but with not much effect. If you feel strongly about this insult please act.


Posted By: Bucks Fizz
Date Posted: 27 January 2017 at 8:35am
I agree. Cheap,nasty and an invitation to graffiti artists. What an insult.


Posted By: Maureen wickes
Date Posted: 30 January 2017 at 6:30pm
There is some info re this awful wall on Streetlife, if enough residents can give opinions just maybe we could create enough of a plan of action to have some effect, after all who's village is this?


Posted By: EmmaO
Date Posted: 30 January 2017 at 7:00pm
Completely agree re wall! Have been told that it is to be rendered and painted and planting put in place? So this isn't the finished wall?

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Posted By: Maureen wickes
Date Posted: 30 January 2017 at 10:39pm
The wall was passed with an artist sketch of a vague wall in a street scene, the planting is ivy which will not cover the wall and painting it won't change the look any more than make up changes me! Not told of any render - how could you render an rsj? That also won't make the wall any more straight or level and the pavement is collapsing where the wall kicks in. The only thing which will have any impact on them is bad press so facebook, local or national press and tv. I do think it is bad enough for an interesting story if it is presented well enough. It looks more like the entrance to a third world trailer park than an upmarket development.


Posted By: ian
Date Posted: 31 January 2017 at 6:36am
The council told me that the wall will be painted green, trellis fixed to the wall and planting on top allowed to grow down the wall. This will not only look out of keeping but will require regular maintenance to repaint the wall, repair trellis and prune the foliage. Would it not be better to spend this money on a brick fascia that would require minimal maintenance and be more in keeping with the look of Market Place?




Posted By: Maureen wickes
Date Posted: 01 February 2017 at 6:57am
From a recent conversation with CDC it seems that the wall and pavement permissions were given with no conditions as to the construction, this was all to be negotiated at a later date. This then gave Persimmon free rein to put up what they liked, I have been promised copies of the plans relating to this but have not heard from them so the cynic in me suspects that they may not exist - we shall see.

CDC told me yesterday that it will be battens added to the front to support foliage, whatever they put there is not acceptable.


Posted By: Maureen wickes
Date Posted: 07 February 2017 at 7:35am
Received nothing re the plans for the wall, will make my request more formal this time. Our MP has asked questions and received a letter stating that the wall will be painted with camouflage paint!

Someone at CDC Planning has made a huge mess of this and we, the residents, are having to now suffer the consequences


Posted By: Bucks Fizz
Date Posted: 07 February 2017 at 7:58am
This seems so short-sighted to me. Surely, anyone remotely contemplating buying one of the new houses - anyone, that is, who hasn't googled Persimmon Homes and seen the huge amount of adverse feedback about the standard of their building - would be put off by seeing such a shoddy wall at the entrance to the estate. 'Seems Persimmon don't even know or care about 'window dressing'.



Posted By: lesleyr
Date Posted: 07 February 2017 at 4:25pm
I think we have to give them a chance. They are not going to complete the wall until the majority of the building work is finished. We may not like it but that's the way these building sites work. My husband has worked on them for 35 years and normally the last thing to be built is any perimeter wall, normally when most if not all of the houses are built. Maybe they are just waiting for some better weather to finish it off.Not really sure there are any consequences, just a bit of an ugly wall to look at. I feel that we need to get things in proportion here.


Posted By: Maureen wickes
Date Posted: 08 February 2017 at 7:54am
The point is, why build an ugly wall when an attractive one could have been built? Would anyone put this in their garden?

The shopkeepers opposite are looking at it all day, every day, so not sure they would agree that it's not a big deal.


Posted By: big baggles
Date Posted: 11 February 2017 at 8:46pm
if the wall is to be painted, who is expected to  maintain the paint finish ?  - who in 5 yrs time will repaint this ? - at who's cost ?

the wall is nasty, the  sections were cast in situ- theyr'e not even level -

 it looks awful- how anyone can think this is a good advert for the quality of workmanship of the houses being built...- if i saw the wall sections i would think the homes being built were equally nasty and of poor quality....


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Posted By: lesleyr
Date Posted: 11 February 2017 at 11:31pm
I can assure you that the quality of the work is awful.There is not a single locally hired person on the whole job. Let alone hired from within the UK.


Posted By: Chilternman
Date Posted: 12 February 2017 at 7:59am
Isn't there someone out there who has time on their hands to rally up enough people in similar situations who can occupy the site and prevent them getting on with the build, I'm sure they will get the wall sorted then. We need some women like they had at Greenham Common years ago, prepared to camp out, bit chilly at the moment though!
I can't see the toothless councils getting anywhere with it so disrupting their building programme is all I can think of.


Posted By: big baggles
Date Posted: 12 February 2017 at 11:19am
are there enough concrete panels to  write S P I N E L E S S C O U N C I L  S H O D D Y B U I L D

if the graffitti went up i expect it would get covered over quickly ?

just a thought !


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Posted By: ian
Date Posted: 12 February 2017 at 4:32pm
I don't think the nationality of the builders has got anything to do with the wall. I expect Persimmon instructed the builders to put up a cheap wall which is what they have done and the council seem powerless to stop them.

I expect the tax payer will end up footing the bill for repainting in the same way we end up paying for pothole repairs caused by lazy contractors not doing a proper job. The council needs to make builders and contractors accountable for the quality of the work. 





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